Thursday, October 7, 2010

Do I Dare?

Though I have thought about this post in my mind for months, I have never gotten around to really formulating my thoughts into written form.  Though, believe me, I've shared all of these thoughts in the verbal form many a time!!!  But a few random occurrences lately have made me decide to see how alone in my thinking I may not be.

If you recall, I have alluded to this subject two times before, here in this attempt at being funny or this change of tune here that only lasted a couple of days.

And so,
Drum roll please...

We are talking about nothing other than the Boy Scouts of America program.  Hereafter to be referred to as BSA.

Before I begin my rant writing, I will first remind myself of the conversation I had with my uncle recently.  My uncle is someone I admire.  I admire his humbleness, his faith and his perseverance in life.  So with that admiration intact, I broached the subject of the BSA program with him at a recent family event.  I clearly stated my objective in my initial question, "What are your thoughts on the BSA program?"  His initial reaction, 

"Well first off all, you must remember it is a church (LDS) supported program."

His response struck a slight humbling reaction in me, yet I still spewed forth my BSA rhetoric.  (I guess I figured if I spewed my BSA rhetoric once before to a 'high up' BSA/LDS official (who really shall remain nameless) I could again amongst family!)

And so I pose my questions:

What other calling within our faith requires a leader to purchase a $30 +/- piece of clothing?

Why do we from our pulpit encourage our members to pay generously to the leaders that will be coming to our houses to collect money that will be sent to pay BigWigs salaries, overpriced awards, etc?  (For the record, I DO NOT pay 'Friends of Scouting'.  And in fact, when a member of our bishopric recently said to Mike and me, "Oh, I have the Friends of Scouting envelope to drop by." I replied, "Don't bother.  We won't be paying.  Have you seen the mark-up of items at the Scout Store recently?"

What other group (youth or adult) in our church requires $50-$60 spent to participate?  (Shirts, books, scarves, optional belt, etc.)

What other group in our church spends $1000's dollars each month for some scraps of material/pieces of metal to be sewn on shirts, worn for a couple of years and then stored away in a box in the attic for decades?

What other group in the church takes unnecessary risks in the winter weather to attend winter camp-outs for the sake of maintaining good standing for a BSA award?

When has a YW group gone on a camp for more than 4-5 days.  Yet boys AND THEIR LEADERS WHO MAY HAVE LIMITED VACATION DAYS typically stay Monday-Saturday at a BSA camp?

What other calling within the LDS church requires back-ground checks?

What other program (in or out of the LDS church) places so much emphasis on boys receiving one particular award that alone suddenly makes them 'credible, responsible, trustworthy, honest and a man of character'?

Why in the world would parents place demands/conditions/rewards that can not be fulfilled until a particular award is earned?  Is that award really what you want the emphasis to be on?  And don't give me the 'It will teach them to be responsible, dependable, etc. etc.'  Because that just feeds into the whole line of thinking that there is no other way to have honorable, worthy men of character without the BSA program!!!

Aagh-this whole thing is wearing me out.
What about you?

Now, I know enough about extra-curricular activities to know that being a Cub Scout and/or Boy Scout is actually a very good deal (financially) and an extremely beneficial program physically, mentally, spiritually, socially, etc. etc.  But extra-curricular activities are chosen based on family situations; be them financial or time-concious.  And on a child's personality and interests.

If you have paid any attention to my family or my blog in the past, you know my son Luke, well enough to know he is a prime candidate for the BSA program.  He completed his Bobcat requirements in less than a week, his Wolf requirements in less than six months.  And so I will admit, that even if we lived somewhere obscure and had no LDS affiliation, I would most certainly look into the BSA program for him to join as an EXTRA-CURRICULAR activity.

Mike and I have both taken our turns as leaders within the BSA program.  Besides having brothers involved in the program, my first personal introduction to it was as a leader when I had one six-month old baby girl.  Mike has served several times within the BSA since his involvement with it as a youth.  I have mixed feelings about serving in the program as leaders.  Sometimes I blow steam and say, "We will completely separate from any and all BSA associations as leaders and thus, will have to separate our children from it too."  But is that really fair to my boys, in our society?  That's a hard question, that probably only Mike and I can answer. 

Referring again to my BSA chat to a 'high up' BSA/LDS official, I was told that within the LDS church, there should be far more emphasis on the priesthood within the Young Men Program (Duty to God) than on BSA.  Sounds great in theory, but I don't think that is the case...

More often than not when I share my BSA thoughts, I have people agree with me.  Even if not entirely, they do partially.  Sometimes I wonder if all in the name of being good, faithful, obedient members of our faith, our passiveness is misinterpreted and is not doing anything to cause a little change.

In my humble opinion, I think it is perfectly ok to have and share our opinions.
I'm just sayin'...

12 comments:

  1. As you asked about other church 'programs' that take up equal amounts of resources I kept thinking of my experience as a temple worker:
    $$ on new clothing to participate (suit, shoes, etc.) check
    $$$ to continue to participate. (continue to buy garments and donate 10% of my income). check
    I have to pass a 'background check' (no kids, not divorced, and other temple ?). check
    I was asked to use my valuable free time to do it (6 hrs every Friday for at least a year). check.

    Perhaps that's a little dramatic on my part since I was a willing participant ;).

    I do have to agree that since BSA is more of an "add on" program it should be more elective than required, especially considering the resources it takes.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Amen. Best post I think I have read in a long time. Well all of your posts are good, but you know my thoughts here.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Really? You think it's ok to share your opinion? You've made some good points though . . . and I could honestly see you and hear you in my head as I read this! :)

    ReplyDelete
  4. Cindy-The difference being temple attendance and/or paying our tithes and offerings are part of our BELIEFS and taught to be a necessary part of our eternal salvation.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I have a lot of the same feelings you do. I think that is because I had a hard time with how demanding Jeff's calling was as a BSA leader. We'll have to see how I feel when Max gets to the age were he is doing boy scouts.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Wow, not having any children I had no idea of these things, but I have been wanting to know your thoughts on this for some time and I've got to side with you. I think emphasis should be placed on the Duty to God award more so. I also think that scouts should be entirely separated from church. The money issue with buying shirts, etc. is also something that the church should recognize. That's expensive. I feel your pain. I've only been in YW for a little over a month and I can honestly say that I've probably spent close to $100 on those girls. The budget is a joke, so I don't bother turning in my receipts. My sister's husband is the scout master and it sucks because he has to take an entire week off of work for scout camp EVERY summer and when he stops working, the entire dental office shuts down which means I don't get paid either and it forces the entire office to take our vacations at that same time of year, regardless of whether our spouses can. So yes, I think it's asking a LOT to go for an entire week. My bro in law also has to go on weekend campouts EVERY month. It just seems a little too much camping and time he has to take away from work and of course his wife and five kids, but that's just my opinion. (although he has NEVER complained) And that's my two cents.

    ReplyDelete
  7. What I hate is the yellow shirt they want you to wear as a den mother it is very un-flattering. I refused to wear it! I took a stand Tiffany and said NO I will not spend any money on a pastel see through yellow shirt....not happening! I agree on the expense. The awards are very very expensive. I had to pick them up a few times for pack meeting and I couldn't believe how much they cost. On callings that require back ground checks???? you don't want to know my opinion on that. Love your blog!

    ReplyDelete
  8. I always enjoy my "donation" to the girl scouts... I usually get several boxes of thin mints out of it :-)

    ReplyDelete
  9. Well I do have to say as a former girl scout... "While the 'rewards are great and something to look forward to for a job well job, it is the process that matters. It is the process that I remember. It is not necessarily about being responsible but it is about learning certain skills that you might not learn else where. My favorite thing was camping, learning to set up tents, no toilets or running water, learning to start campfires, cooking full meals on campfires. And of course learning other valuable skills that will help me to be a better daughter of God, wife, and mother someday." I'm sorry but BSA is a good program and maybe shouldn't be such a huge focus. But if a prophet of the Lord encourages it, then we should too. And as far as money, nothing is free. The activities for the last 2 RS activities have cost money to participate. After all, it really isn't that bad!! And if it makes them happy, then they need all the support they can get because if they are left trying to figure it out on their own then it will only become discouraging and they may give up and you will never know what influence that will have on them later in life. "Every comment will build or tare down, use it wisely in presence of those that are so tender and delicate and need us more than anything for strength and love." Sorry, just sayin!!

    ReplyDelete
  10. I must say I totally agree with you. My 13 year-old son is a very good kid. Not outdoorsy in the least, and doesn't like scouts. He is much like my husband was at that age. Since he is a good kid, he normally goes without a complaint. I have a feeling this will not be the case as he gets older. We are not a big scouting family and I have no brothers, so I learn as I go with this whole scouting thing. I was just told that the local scouting office does not have any record of my son's last three advancements. Nice. Good thing I keep those stupid little cards.
    Don't even get me started on one of my biggest pet peeves--calling a young mom with no scouts of her own and toddlers and babies in tow to be a den leader. I see this all the time and it infuriates me.
    Now, of course, the scouting program notwithstanding, I love the gospel and I do have a strong testimony and we are a very active family.
    I have the same issues as you and many others regarding scouting. I want my son to be good, honest, and dependable. I want him to serve a mission, get married in the temple and lead a good productive life. Will that only come to pass if he gets his Eagle? I guess what I don't have a testimony of is the Eagle. Don't get it. Never cared that my wonderful husband didn't get his. I didn't even know until well after we were married. His brother, incidentally, got his Eagle and has been in and out of jail among other things.
    Would I love my son to get his Eagle? YES!!! However, I will not do it for him, and I will not "make" him do it. At least my husband is on the same page with me on that. We are very supportive, but it really does get frustrating. Sorry this is way too long, but you touched a nerve here. Glad you posted this. I hope at some point we can find some resolution, or at least peace on this issue.

    ~Sheila in AK

    ReplyDelete
  11. I just typed out a long response, but it said it was too long. So...I will just say, that having a 13 year-old son in the scouting program through the church, I TOTALLY AGREE with you!!!

    ReplyDelete

Thoughts?

LinkWithin

Related Posts with Thumbnails